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Topic Subject: Patch 15 & Emperor Edition (BETA) Discussion Thread
posted 09-02-14 10:09 AM EDT (US)   
So what does everyone think of the changes introduced in the Patch15/Emperor Edition Beta? I haven't reached a point where the politics and civil war changes can be tested in my new Seleucid campaign yet, but the battles are much, much better and the new tweaks to building chains are quite interesting

Any changes anyone particularly likes/dislikes so far?

"Life is more fun when you are insane. Just let go occasionally".- yakcamkir 12:14
"It is not numbers, but vision that wins wars." - Antiochus VII Sidetes
"My magic screen is constantly bombarded with nubile young things eager to please these old eyes. This truly is a wonderful period in which to exist! - Terikel Grayhair
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posted 09-02-14 12:44 PM EDT (US)     1 / 12  
ARG! I'm gonna have to delete my saves again and play vanilla (plus some side mods) while the other mods get updated

I've really been tempted with all the video games lately. Between Skyrim, Rome 2, Battlefield 4 and World of Tanks (or whatever it's called) I don't think I will have any right to say I'm bored

ONTO ROME 2! Will give feedback after a few hours of gameplay.

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My magic screen is constantly bombarded with nubile young things eager to please these old eyes. This truly is a wonderful period in which to exist! - Terikel the Deflowerer
posted 09-03-14 12:31 PM EDT (US)     2 / 12  
I can't wait to see what modders will do with it, too. It seems like there's some cool triggers to play with.

What's the run down with the new building chains?

And I shall go Softly into the Night Taking my Dreams As will You
posted 09-04-14 11:14 AM EDT (US)     3 / 12  
Here is a link to an unofficial guide that shows all the building chains of the Rome II factions. The most noticeable changes are the ones to provincial capital and minor settlement buildings. You can choose to have your provincial capitals become either garrison or civilian focused cities/colonies and minor settlements can now be upgraded to specialize in the market and agricultural building chain.

These changes seem to be mainly inspired by the work done by modders on DeI, R2TR, and various others but that's not a bad thing. It's awesome that work done by fans is being incorporated into the main game. The only downside is all the changes have wrecked the playability of major mods. It isn't that bad for mods with an active team like DeI, but for modders like Radious and Magnar the changes are near catastrophic. Radious himself has said it will take him weeks and maybe even months to get his mods up to date and playable

"Life is more fun when you are insane. Just let go occasionally".- yakcamkir 12:14
"It is not numbers, but vision that wins wars." - Antiochus VII Sidetes
"My magic screen is constantly bombarded with nubile young things eager to please these old eyes. This truly is a wonderful period in which to exist! - Terikel Grayhair
Angel of Total War: Rome II Heaven and the Total War: Attila Forums
posted 09-10-14 11:54 AM EDT (US)     4 / 12  
My word it's hard after this patch.

So far... I've been utterly crushed as Epirus after I could barely contain the Greek states, shortly followed by a Roman invasion. A second attempt involving my Macedonians dying slowly starving to death besieged by Tylis in Pulpudeva and Athens at Pella.

But they were both a lot of fun. I still hate the interface and campaign map UI but I have high hopes for this expansion (aka Rome finished)

Looking forward to the next announcement at the end of the month for the actual standalone too.

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posted 09-10-14 01:18 PM EDT (US)     5 / 12  
I've been playing the latest version of DeI with the patch and I've definitely noticed a marked improvement in the campaign AI. Even diplomacy seems to be improved as the AI appears to declare war only on factions that have negative relations instead of dogpiling on whoever is at war with someone else.
I still hate the interface and campaign map UI but I have high hopes for this expansion (aka Rome finished)
Here's a pic someone took from the CA live stream on Twitch yesterday. Glad to see they've lived up the politics tab a bit and added distinctive icons to the other tabs as well. Hopefully these changes will carry on to the Grand Campaign.

Looking forward to the next announcement at the end of the month for the actual standalone too.
I'm personally hoping for a Total War set in China during the Warring States period. Total War: Warring States has a nice ring to it

"Life is more fun when you are insane. Just let go occasionally".- yakcamkir 12:14
"It is not numbers, but vision that wins wars." - Antiochus VII Sidetes
"My magic screen is constantly bombarded with nubile young things eager to please these old eyes. This truly is a wonderful period in which to exist! - Terikel Grayhair
Angel of Total War: Rome II Heaven and the Total War: Attila Forums
posted 09-10-14 03:23 PM EDT (US)     6 / 12  
I'm all for China/Asian total war. Don't know how commercially viable that will be though. Still, I still maintain Shogun 2 is the best and most complete Total War game they've ever done. I know they said they don't want to do a '... Total war 3' so Medieval is out for now

Wouldn't mind Warhammer, would prefer a unique IP though. Maybe some fantasy universe CA copyright.

After all is said and done I'm almost certain it'll be a standalone Rome 2 expansion.

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:: The Sun always rises in the East :: Flawless Crowns :: Dancing Days ::

"We kissed the Sun, and it smiled down upon us."
posted 09-12-14 12:18 PM EDT (US)     7 / 12  
After all is said and done I'm almost certain it'll be a standalone Rome 2 expansion.
I could not agree more... Though I'm still hoping for a Bronze Age Total war...

Invincibility lies in defence, while the possibility of victory in the attack -Sun Tzu
Akouson me, pataxon de (hit me, but first listen to me)-Themistocles to Euribiadis prior to the battle of Salamis.
posted 09-16-14 11:38 AM EDT (US)     8 / 12  
Had a civil war a little while back. For lack of a better word, it was much more enjoyable and immersive to fight against armies I raised and commanded myself instead of instant spawn doomstacks. I felt a genuine sense of panic as well because all three armies that rebelled were in or near the core provinces of my empire when they rebelled and a few core regions of those provinces went with them when they turned.

With the EE going live today, I can't wait to see the full capabilities of the overhauled politics and civil war system in the Augustus campaign

"Life is more fun when you are insane. Just let go occasionally".- yakcamkir 12:14
"It is not numbers, but vision that wins wars." - Antiochus VII Sidetes
"My magic screen is constantly bombarded with nubile young things eager to please these old eyes. This truly is a wonderful period in which to exist! - Terikel Grayhair
Angel of Total War: Rome II Heaven and the Total War: Attila Forums
posted 09-16-14 04:07 PM EDT (US)     9 / 12  
I've dabbled a bit as Armenia in the limited time I've had with it so far.

The politics looks a hundred times better, as does the whole faction interface and character portraits.

I like the new colours for the most part too.

The campaign map looks excellent in Augustus, and with the 4 turn per year scale I can't wait to sink my teeth in properly and start creating stories as I play which for me is such a huge part of my enjoyment of the franchise.

Also, is it just me or did they change the starting regions for Carthage on the Grand Campaign??

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:: The Sun always rises in the East :: Flawless Crowns :: Dancing Days ::

"We kissed the Sun, and it smiled down upon us."
posted 09-17-14 03:50 AM EDT (US)     10 / 12  
Weren't they supposed to announce a new TW game?

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posted 09-17-14 11:36 AM EDT (US)     11 / 12  
Not till the end of the month.

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:: The Sun always rises in the East :: Flawless Crowns :: Dancing Days ::

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posted 09-18-14 04:15 PM EDT (US)     12 / 12  
Have not had time to really sink my teeth in to the changes yet, although the politics and modest UI changes look good so far. Looking to sink my teeth in to the Imperator Augustus campaign when I get time.
Also, is it just me or did they change the starting regions for Carthage on the Grand Campaign?
I cannot recall which patch it was without looking through the prior patch changelogs, but Carthage's holdings was adjusted in an earlier patch.
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