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Topic Subject: So, I have a Rome addiction...
posted 01-07-14 08:45 AM EDT (US)   
... The faction, not the game.

I'm content to be very boring and play with my hastati, principes and triarii rather than explore a lot of the rest of the world, though Parthia was quite fun. This has gotten worse with moving onto DeI, as I'm starting again. Hopefully I'll conquer Italy a bit quicker this time.

So, as we reach about halfway in Rome II's development cycle (or perhaps near the end?), which faction is your favorite in what incarnation? Also, any tips for DeI, Dom?

And I shall go Softly into the Night Taking my Dreams As will You
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posted 01-07-14 11:49 AM EDT (US)     1 / 7  
My favorite faction is (of course) the Seleucids. Not only do they have one of the most extensive unit rosters in the game (vanilla or DeI), they also have the unique campaign experience of having to deal with several ambitious and rebellious satrapies right from the start. If you can play the diplomacy game right, then you can face them down one at a time or pit them against each other but if you don't then you risk facing a giant coalition that threatens your entire eastern border and leaves you vulnerable to attacks and invasions by other factions like Egypt, Armenia or Pontus.

With regards to DeI EoJ, since the Romans are your go-to faction I highly recommend Patricius Darwinius Virtus' Realistic Roman Army Mod. In it, Patricius has overhauled and tweaked not only unit skins and sizes but also overhauled the tech trees, political houses and added in realistic Area Of Recruitment. I haven't tried it myself, but I very much intend to after I finish my current Seleucid and Lusitani campaigns.

For the mod itself, take wars of expansion one at a time and watch out for a target faction's diplomatic standing with neighboring factions and how many allies it has. While the AI doesn't stick together like a pack of wolves, they will band together to attack anyone that invades what they consider their "area of influence". I've experienced having minor factions that have been fighting since the start of the campaign call ceasefires, ally with each other and attack me when I decided to stroll in their neighborhood. The combat system is also very much different from vanilla with battles lasting at an average of about 15 minutes for me, but my longest one involving full-stack armies lasted nearly 34 minutes. Units still rout if you do something really bad to them (like charging cavalry into their flanks), but if you don't truly shatter them then there's a good chance they'll regroup and come back to attack you when you don't expect it.

Shock cavalry is very powerful as they should be, but they are by no means invincible. Even Royal Cataphracts can be slaughtered if they get bogged down in a melee for too long or you exhaust them charging this where and that. Fatigue is very important so always keep an eye on it and don't exhaust your soldiers because it can have a huge effect on morale and fighting ability. One of the key factors that contributed to that incredible victory in my AAR was that all of the enemy units were exhausted from fighting, charging and shoving each other around, while the units I sent to surround and attack them were well-rested. Special units like war elephants, chariots and Berzerkers can also have a large impact and turn the tide of a battle if used at the right time, but they've been balanced and tweaked by the DeI team so that they're not unstoppable wrecking balls.

If you want to pick up any good submods, you can check out the ones I linked in the OP of my AAR or browse around the Official Divide et Impera Forum at TWC where fans of the mod post their own submods on a regular basis.

"Life is more fun when you are insane. Just let go occasionally".- yakcamkir 12:14
"It is not numbers, but vision that wins wars." - Antiochus VII Sidetes
"My magic screen is constantly bombarded with nubile young things eager to please these old eyes. This truly is a wonderful period in which to exist! - Terikel Grayhair
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posted 01-07-14 03:13 PM EDT (US)     2 / 7  
I am seeing DeI as the most popular mod around and with good reason. Personally I have not installed it because I don't want a total overhaul mod before all the campaign related patches die down.

As for favorite campaign factions, currently I am playing the Seleucids with mods and they are fun.

Still, it is pretty sad IMO because in the old days of Rome 1 and MTW2, I would have had 4-5 campaigns simultaneously playing and really getting into it. Rome 2 just does not fire me up.
posted 01-08-14 02:44 AM EDT (US)     3 / 7  
The most campaigns I had going at any one time in the Rome 1 and Medieval 2 days was 3, but I'd give all of them a fairly equal amount of focus and try to meet the campaign objectives with each of them within a day or two of each other. I had a Date, Takeda, Uesugi and Shimazu campaigns that I'd bounce between when I was really into Shogun 2 before, but the Date one was the only campaign I played to the end.

With Vanilla Rome II I couldn't get the same passion and excitement I got from its predecessors. I never even managed to beat a vanilla campaign, because CA kept patching the game so often and messing up the balance in my saved games. DeI is what saved Rome II for me, which is why I mention it in just about every post I make haha.

Whenever you decide to give it a try bandito, I'm sure you'll enjoy immensely and find it vastly superior to vanilla Rome II.

"Life is more fun when you are insane. Just let go occasionally".- yakcamkir 12:14
"It is not numbers, but vision that wins wars." - Antiochus VII Sidetes
"My magic screen is constantly bombarded with nubile young things eager to please these old eyes. This truly is a wonderful period in which to exist! - Terikel Grayhair
Angel of Total War: Rome II Heaven and the Total War: Attila Forums
posted 01-08-14 04:11 AM EDT (US)     4 / 7  
Hell no, I'd have one campaign I'd play religiously. I can't juggle games here and there without severely neglecting one (or a drop-in drop-out one, like FM)

The army mod is... tempting. But I like my Hastati and such. I'll give it a spin later.

And I shall go Softly into the Night Taking my Dreams As will You
posted 01-08-14 11:07 AM EDT (US)     5 / 7  
...in the old days of Rome 1 and MTW2, I would have had 4-5 campaigns simultaneously playing and really getting into it. Rome 2 just does not fire me up.
I can sympathize with this. Although, as I understand the game more I like it better. But not to the level I liked Rome 1 and MTW 1&2.

Life was much easier before I developed a sense of ethics.
posted 01-08-14 04:44 PM EDT (US)     6 / 7  
I blame it squarely on the replenishment and attrition system plus the stupid campaign AI. instead of having several large factions that throw armies at each other you have a death-match of 50 small factions who each have 3 stacks of cheap units. The game needs more big factions and less weak armies.

As far as factions go i find Pontus the most interesting mix for campaign. horse archers,chariots, light infantry and hoplites backed by good cavalry.
you also get many diverse enemies: nomads,Greeks, barbarians and Parthians. The black sea coastline gives plenty of opportunities for amphibious warfare and raiding while the mountains make for interesting maps.

Carthage on high difficulty is also interesting because you will find yourself in a 3 front war after 40 turns. they fight like Rome (big line of heavy infantry) only with elephants and good cavalry. Between mass murder of Iberian swordsmen/desert spearmen and cracking those Greek phalanx lines with an elephant charge every turn of the camapign will be very diverse.
posted 01-09-14 02:41 PM EDT (US)     7 / 7  
I've probably played Carthage at least 8 times through so far. I don't have the same enthusiasm for R2 compared to R1, but I waited at least a year and a half to play R1, and hadn't played anything like it before so there is that in its favor. It was also easy as hell to mod, not even needing much fancy programs to meddle with unit stats, the campaign map and such. When/if I find a good, easy to follow guide on how to make units, this game will have greatly been enhanced in my eyes. As such, I don't have time yet.

I am the Carthaginian who became an angel, and surrendered his wings for a life on the sea of battle.

My magic screen is constantly bombarded with nubile young things eager to please these old eyes. This truly is a wonderful period in which to exist! - Terikel the Deflowerer
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